998: Dusty Johns - Facing Excommunication for Being Same-Sex Married Pt. 1
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 11 October 2018
⏱️ 71 minutes
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Summary
Join us for this important and time-sensitive edition of Mormon Stories Podcast as we interview Idahoan, Dusty Johns. In Part 1 of this interview, Dusty shares his experience growing up as a gay and closeted Mormon and at times being the only active member of his family. Before becoming a missionary, he covenanted with God that if he served an honorable full-time mission that his sexual orientation would change. Upon returning from his mission to England and quickly marrying, a few months into his marriage he realized that he was unable to connect with his wife in a manner that a man and woman should. Though the marriage did not last, it did produce two boys who Dusty treasures and shares parenting responsibilities with their mother. Dusty began to be involved with LDS-affiliated groups that attempt to diminish "same-sex attraction" and overcome homosexual behavior, but quickly saw that many program attendees were either acting hypocritically or living seemingly miserable lives as celibate Mormons. After experiencing medical complications that almost ended his life, his devotion to the LDS Church and God became cemented and he decided that he could be both an active Mormon, and create a family with someone that he truly loved.
In Part 2 of this interview, we learn how Dusty met his husband and how the two have formed a loving family unit with Dusty's two boys. The family was quickly accepted by their local Idahoan ward, including their ward and stake leadership. Dusty tells us that recently his local leadership was directed by LDS Church authorities in Salt Lake City to initiate disciplinary proceedings because of his same-sex marriage. After receiving a letter in the mail indicating such, Dusty forwarded the letter to Mormon Stories Podcast and 6 hours after the letter was posted publicly, his stake leadership was asked to postpone the disciplinary council until after General Conference, as directed by the church's PR department. As of today, Dusty's council meeting is now set to take place October 16th.
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| 1:26.0 | Welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John DeLin. It is October |
| 1:31.0 | 8th, 2018 and we are a little bit somber and still always very excited to bring you another |
| 1:41.0 | episode of Mormon Stories podcast. Today we are a day after a sort of an epic general conference, |
| 1:50.0 | Russell and Nelson's second general conference where they shortened from the three-hour block to the |
| 1:55.0 | two-hour block and where Elder Donate jokes gave what for many was a disturbing talk on LGBTQ individuals |
| 2:04.0 | and it is with the heavy heart that we are bringing to you today this interview. Today we are |
| 2:11.0 | interviewing Dusty Johns and the reason why we are doing this interview is because within a |
| 2:19.0 | week prior to general conference Dusty and his partner, Tate or at least Dusty were served |
| 2:30.0 | with papers notifying them of a disciplinary council. They have been same-sex married for |
| 2:36.0 | around five months. Dusty was in a mixed orientation marriage prior to same-sex marriage. He has |
| 2:45.0 | two beautiful boys and one of the things that has been interesting about Dusty and Tate is that |
| 2:52.0 | they have been taking their sons to church to their Idaho ward. They have been wanting to attend |
| 3:00.0 | as a couple and they have been wanting to take Dusty's sons to church. I have been in touch |
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