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So here's the last thing I want to talk about. It's you and your beliefs. One of the crazy

things about Michael Quinn, about Sandra Tanner, and about Grant Palmer, and I'm sure there

are others that I'm forgetting, is that there's a chunk of our listeners where because they

feel betrayed by the church because they feel misled, because they feel deceived, and the

dominoes start falling. It's like Joseph Smith in the Book of Mormon fall, Book of Abraham

Falls, Dr. and Covenants Falls, and then Modern Day Profits Fall and then the Mormon Church

Falls. Those dominoes quickly go to the Bible, Old Testament New Testament, to Christianity,

to Jesus, to the resurrection, to the Atonement, and I'd say over half of my listeners just

because you know, atheists are agnostics, right? And that's, you know, that's most, I'd

say most of my listeners. But then I bring on people like you and Grant Palmer and Michael

Quinn and Sandra Tanner where they take us on this multi-hour ride of like this deep understanding

of our history and in expose and helping us uncover, you know, all the problems with

the religion and our history. And we want to think, well then they're going to end up right

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