Yes, and we're live. What's up man? How are you?

Fantastic. Thanks for doing this. Appreciate you. Let me come up. So why don't you tell people what you do?

I am a muscle physiologist so I'm a PhD in human bioinurgetics and I'm the director for the Center for Support Performance which all that basically means I study muscle

physiology, why it grows, shrinks, repairs, dies, and all that crap.

Now when you're dealing with athletes and you're dealing with like state-of-the-art performance.

How much does that stuff change like year-to-year?

Like protocols, like what people used to think was the way to go?

What's the new way to go?

Well, if you take a look, or if you examine just the idea of science in general, it's the understanding that we're wrong. That's what do you are what science is. If we knew what the answer was, we wouldn't look into it. Like, what's the point of doing a study if we know the answer?

Right.

So by definition, we're always evolving in that sense,

but it's quite funny how the central tenants

are really not that different.

You take nutrition, you take training,

the vast majority of those things are similar to what they were 20, 30, 80, 100 years ago.

So the bulk of it, what matters for the bulk of athletes is fairly standard.

Where it differs is the last few percentage points.

It's getting us that last 10% gains or being very specific.

So you, on a personal level, need this little bit of difference and then you need this

tiny bit of difference but the bulk of it really is not that different.

Well when you watch in MMA fighters in particular you see so many different methods,

I mean so many different ways to approach things,

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