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Hey listeners, it's Lindsay Smith Rogers. Today, a look at alcohol guidelines from a country that's worked to establish clear definitions of risk

and limits. Tim Stockwell is a scientist at the Canadian Institute for Substance Use Research

and Emeritus Professor of Psychology at the University of Victoria. He talks to me about Canada's

low-risk alcohol drinking guidelines, which were announced in 2023 and aimed at helping people make sense of complex

recommendations to make decisions around drinking alcohol. We also talk about the U.S.'s new

guidance, which was announced alongside revised dietary guidelines in early January. Let's listen.

Tim Stockwell, thank you so much for joining us on public health on call. How are you?

I'm good. Thank you for having me.

Would you start off by telling us a bit about you and your work?

Sure. Well, I've been at this game working on alcohol and public health for over four decades in the UK, Australian,

and I've been working in Canada for the last 20 plus years at the Canadian

Institute for Substance Use Research. I've got a lot of interests in the area and recently

I've been quite caught up in this discussion of drinking guidelines in the US.

We're going to talk about that as well, but to start off, you helped contribute to Canada's low-risk alcohol drinking guidelines.

Can you explain what low-risk alcohol drinking guidelines are?

Right. I've actually been involved in several countries probably about six times.

And essentially, the exercise is getting a lot of scientists,

public health experts, clinicians together in a committee

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