Welcome to How Leaders Lead, where every week you get to listen in while I interview some of the very best leaders in the world.

I break down the key learning so that by the end of the episode, you'll have something simple you can apply as you develop into a better leader.

That's what this podcast is all about. Well, I couldn't be more excited about this

conversation because the new NFL season kicks off this week. Yeah, that's right. Football is back,

baby. And it's the perfect time to sit down and talk with my friend Roger Goodell, the commissioner of the

National Football League.

He is starting his 16th year as NFL commissioner, and if you follow the news at all,

you know Roger has had to make some tough decisions and deal with his fair share of conflict.

We certainly don't have time to go through all of them, but there's certainly a lot we can learn from how he leads.

Because let's face it, Rogers is the chief executive of the most popular pro sports league in the world.

That kind of success comes with its own challenges.

What does great leadership look like when your product is so darn popular?

How do you fight against the complacency that often comes

when you're succeeding? Keep listening so you can learn exactly how to keep pushing the status quo,

no matter what level of success you've achieved. And let's face it, the NFL has been on a huge run.

So here's my conversation with my good friend and soon to be yours, Roger Goodell.

You know, Roger, I wish I was there to greet you in person, but I got to tell you, you've

got one of the strongest handshakes

that I've ever experienced in my life. I feel like I got to get ready for it. Did you get

that from hanging around all those football players? I'm going, where's that strong handshake

come from? Well, I think you should mean what you do, one, but two, is it probably does come a little bit from

shaking hands with a bunch of big guys and strong guys. But I get that a lot when it comes to the

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