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Mormon Stories Podcast

984: Truth Seeking with Hans and Birgitta Mattsson Pt. 1

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2018

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Join us for our highly anticipated follow-up interview with both Hans and Birgitta Mattsson during our recent trip to Sweden to visit with those who attended the original "Swedish Rescue" fireside in November, 2010. Our first interview with Hans and Birgitta was released on July 22, 2013 and is noted as one of our most important releases given Hans' church leadership pedigree as a bishop and stake president in Sweden before serving in the LDS church 3rd Quorum of the Seventy from 2000-2005 in the Europe Central area under LDS Apostle L. Tom Perry, as well as the sincere struggles with testimony that both Hans and Birgitta faced after his release as an Area Authority.

In this two-part interview, we relive both Hans and Birgitta's ascent through the LDS Church, we elaborate for the first time on Hans and Birgitta's experience receiving the Second Anointing (a rarely-talked about temple ordinance reserved for those in the upper echelons of the LDS Church and described in detail during our epic interview with Tom Phillips), and we discuss the motivations for writing the book, "Truth Seeking: The Story of High-Ranking Mormon Leader Hans Mattsson Seeking Sincere Answers From His Church but Instead Finding Contempt, Fear, Doubt ...and Eventually Peace."

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So we are here today to interview and celebrate Brigitte Anhaan's, Matt Sun. I remember

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very clearly our time in New York City. We were at Travis's workplace and I was so excited

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to do it in a video. But we weren't ready to do video yet. It was audio only back then.

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But I'm glad we waited because now you've been a little bit farther along in your journey and

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you've had more experiences and lots of changes have happened. And most importantly,

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you've taken the time to work with Christina Henke to I need a copy of the books.

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Can someone rush me a copy of the books? I want to show them. But you've had a chance to write down and share your stories.

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So as they're going to get it, I just want to say I'm just so grateful that you've taken the time to write these books.

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And so this is the Swedish version of the book. We're going to start promoting it. And I don't even know how to pronounce that.

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So I'm going to ask you Hans to tell us what that says. What does that say?

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Now in Swedish, Cirque de Sonnein, Fan de Vival. And translate to English, seeking truth, found doubts.

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Okay. That's the book in Swedish. If you're Swedish or I guess sometimes Danes and Norwegians can read Swedish.

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Or return missionaries. Or return missionaries. They can read the Swedish version. Or if you don't speak Swedish or read Swedish,

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