972: Amy Edmondson on How to Fail Well
How to Be Awesome at Your Job
How to be Awesome at Your Job
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🗓️ 20 June 2024
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
Amy Edmondson shares how to minimize unproductive failures and maximize intelligent ones.
— YOU’LL LEARN —
1) What separates good failure from bad failure
2) The surprisingly simple tool that prevents many failures
3) How to stay motivated in the face of failure
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— ABOUT AMY —
Amy C. Edmondson is the Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at the Harvard Business School. Her work explores teaming – the dynamic forms of collaboration needed in environments characterized by uncertainty and ambiguity. She has also studied the role of psychological safety in teamwork and innovation. Before her academic career, she was Director of Research at Pecos River Learning Centers, where she worked with founder and CEO Larry Wilson to design change programs in large companies. In the early 1980s, she worked as Chief Engineer for architect/inventor Buckminster Fuller, and innovation in the built environment remains an area of enduring interest and passion.
• Book: Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well
• Website: AmyCEdmondson.com
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— RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW —
• Study: “The Intuitive Psychologist and His Shortcomings: Distortions in the Attribution Process” by Lee Ross
• Book: The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right by Atul Gawande
• Book: The Road to Character by David Brooks
• Past episode: 707: Amy Edmondson on How to Build Thriving Teams with Psychological Safety
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| 0:00.0 | The intelligent failure is not only okay, it's praiseworthy. If everything you try just goes perfectly, you're probably not stretching very much. |
| 0:17.4 | And that's not a way to be awesome at your job. |
| 0:20.8 | Once you recognize that little emotion taking hold, that kind of your |
| 0:26.2 | amygdala gets hooked and says this is just terrible, you pause and you say no, you |
| 0:32.0 | force yourself to say this is inconvenient. |
| 0:35.0 | That's my favorite word, right? It's inconvenient because yep, it's inconvenient and it's not the end of the world. |
| 0:41.0 | Choose learning over knowing and it's an active choice. We have to |
| 0:45.4 | choose it because our habitual cognitive response is to feel like we know, feel like |
| 0:51.2 | we see reality. We have to get curious. We have to choose learning over knowing. |
| 0:55.0 | That's Amy Edmond. She helps teams team better. She's the Novartis |
| 1:01.1 | professor of leadership and management at the Harvard Business School and the leading expert on psychological safety. |
| 1:07.0 | Thinkers 50 ranked her the number one most influential management thinker two years in a row. |
| 1:13.0 | She's written several of award-winning books and today she's going to discuss her latest called the right kind of wrong, the science of feeling well. |
| 1:21.0 | So you'll learn one, what separates good failure from bad |
| 1:23.8 | failure to the surprisingly simple tool that prevents many failures and |
| 1:28.1 | three, how to stay motivated in the face of failure. I'm Pete McKitis. |
| 1:32.5 | This is how to be awesome at your job, |
| 1:34.2 | and now here's Amy. |
| 1:39.6 | Amy, welcome back. |
| 1:41.6 | Great to be back. Well, I am super excited to hear your wisdom and talking about failing well, and I'd like it if you could kick us off with |
| 1:49.5 | one of your favorite failures, personally or professionally? |
| 1:53.6 | My favorite failure has to be the time as a second year PhD student. |
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