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He explained to me how FEMA is the organization

that plans for low probability,

but like seriously high catastrophe events.

He said to me, Annie, we plan for asteroids.

There's nothing that FEMA can do

if a nuclear war happens.

He said to me,

there's no population protection planning,

that's what they call it, in a bolt out of the blue attack,

a nuclear attack because everyone will be dead.

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