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Agreement is one thing, but it's not the same as the release and safe recovery of the

hostages.

It's only when they're back with us in a safe territory, back in the camp or the embassy compound or the medical

centre everybody can kind of breathe a sigh of relief and can have a hug and you know pat

on the back.

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Today on the show, hostage negotiator Scott Walker. Scott served as a

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