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Welcome to shameless leadership. I'm your host, Sarah Dean. This show is for women, transgender people, non-binary folks, as well as allies, who are committed to advancing their leadership while also advancing the leadership of those around them. In each episode, we will offer practical tips, leadership strategies, and inspiring stories to help you become a more confident, compassionate,

and inclusive leader. The truth is, you were born to lead. What might happen for you if you

were to wholeheartedly embrace that part of yourself? So let's start now, together.

Hello, shameless leaders. I'm so excited about our conversation today. This conversation came

about because someone's

information landed in my inbox and a thing that I normally don't look at, I happen to look at,

and I was like, oh wait, there's something here. So I got an email about Lauren Tetenbaum's book,

millennial menopause preparing for paramonopause, menopause, and life's next period. And when I got the email, I started reading through it. And usually I don't accept cold guest pitches. And I was like, no, no, no, this one's important. And so I was excited to invite Lauren to come on the show. And as the universe would have it, there was some big things happening in the world in the United States, the day that we recorded. And I went into the conversation a little like, I hope we're on the same page with things. And we ended up both having that kind of reserved thought about each other. And by the end of our conversation and being able to talk in our pre and post interview, we were like, oh, okay, we are each other's people. This is amazing. So I'm really excited to share this conversation.

Lauren is someone who works in the space of millennial menopause, but also workplace advocacy

around menopause and paramenopause. And I know that these are conversations we need to be having

more often. And I feel like in a year or two, these are going to be way more commonplace

conversations. The awareness

that is being spread and the pace at which it is spreading is really exciting to me. When we have

something that impacts 50% of the population, but it's rarely spoken about, something is deeply

wrong. And that's the situation we've been in for many generations. And we're starting to recognize,

we're starting to wake up, open our eyes,

and recognize that when something impacts 50% of the population, it impacts all of us. And we need

to be talking about it in all the places, including the workplace. And so I'm really excited

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