95. The One Thing Stephen Dubner Hasn’t Quit

People I (Mostly) Admire

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🗓️ 24 December 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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When "Freakonomics" co-authors Steve Levitt and Stephen Dubner first met, one of them hated the other. Two decades later, Levitt grills Dubner about asking questions, growing the pie, and what he learned from Bruce Springsteen.

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0:00.0	My guest today is Steven Dubner.
0:08.0	You no doubt know Steven as the co-author of the Freakonomics Books and the creator and
0:12.0	host of Freakonomics Radio, which probably don't know is the unlikely path that led him
0:17.1	to where he is today, including his stint as a rock star.
0:21.9	One reason I think our partnership has been so much fun is that it is a little bit like
0:26.8	being in a band.
0:28.2	There is nothing like being in a band.
0:30.0	It is the weirdest, tightest, most exciting fraternity possible.
0:39.4	Welcome to People I mostly admire with Steve Levitt.
0:45.7	Steven Dubner has interviewed me many dozens of times over the years, but this is the
0:49.8	absolute first time that I'll be interviewing him.
0:52.5	It will be a very different experience for both of us.
0:55.9	Or will it?
0:56.9	My producer Morgan who knows this both well, she predicts that no matter what I do, by
1:01.4	the end, Dubner will be interviewing me and not vice versa.
1:05.6	Let's see what happens.
1:13.6	Steven Dubner, after so many years of you interviewing me, I get to interview you for the very first
1:19.1	time.
1:20.1	How does it feel to be on the other side of the table?
1:22.3	Are you maybe a little bit nervous?
1:24.4	I don't think nervous is right, where I think disgusted maybe.
1:27.8	I mean, I love you, I love talking to you, but yeah, this is not what I was put on
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