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People I (Mostly) Admire

96. Steven Strogatz Thinks You Don’t Know What Math Is

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

The mathematician and author sees mathematical patterns everywhere — from DNA to fireflies to social connections.

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0:00.0

My guest today, Stephen Stroghets, is a professor of mathematics at Cornell University and has done some of the most influential math research of the last few decades.

0:13.6

But Stephen Stroghets isn't what you'd expect from the math magician.

0:17.6

It was insane to have a paper that had, as its examples, the power grid of the Western United States,

0:24.8

the neural network of the one organism whose neural network had been completely mapped at that point,

0:30.4

and the graph of Hollywood actors who have been in movies with each other,

0:36.1

popularly known at the time as the six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

0:42.4

Welcome to People I Mostly Admire with Steve Levitt.

0:48.4

Stephen Stroghets studies real-world problems and he has a gift for making math fun and accessible

0:53.9

even to people who have math phobia. Through his best-selling books, his New York Times column,

0:58.4

and now his podcast, The Joy of Why, he's probably done more to make people appreciate the power

1:03.2

and beauty of mathematics than anyone else in modern times.

1:10.4

I want to start by saying that I thought of you this morning. I've been reading Infinite Powers,

1:16.0

which is your book about calculus, and I was thinking about it absolutely as I got in the car.

1:21.6

I've lived in Chicago for a long time, which is perfectly flat, but right now I'm living in Germany,

1:26.5

and I live on the top of a big hill. Coming out of my garage, my driveway goes downhill.

1:31.5

Being the absent-mind professor that I am, I didn't bother to survey the situation and

1:36.5

there was ice covering the driveway, and so as I began to drive down it,

1:42.8

I realized the brakes had no effect at all. There's zero friction. I wasn't moving very quickly,

1:48.2

but it is a long downhill driveway. Actually, a time to think about you and Galileo,

1:55.0

and I knew enough about how acceleration works. That I knew by the time I got to the bottom,

1:59.9

I was going to be going pretty fast. And indeed, I slammed into the embankment

2:04.4

at the bottom of the driveway fast enough that the entire front of the car just shattered into pieces.

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