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Paul McKenna's positivity podcast.

Hello, this is Paul McKenna, and welcome to the positivity podcast.

My objective is to interview the most interesting people in the world,

and in the next 30 minutes, get insights and even discover how it is that they do what they do,

what makes them unique and fascinating, their success

mindset, and certainly what keeps them positive.

My guest today is an award-winning broadcaster, writer and adventurer. He's the author of nine

Sunday Times best-selling books and is a United Nations patron of the wilderness. He's climbed Mount Everest and rode across the Atlantic.

I'm talking today with Ben Fogle.

Complacency is a very dangerous thing, and I know you know this as well.

You sit back, rest on your laurels, it will come and bite you on the bum.

My wife is a very good realist.

She's the one, Ben, think about what we have rather than what you don't have or what you've missed out on

or what could have been or what someone has done or what didn't work.

Don't focus on those.

It's too easy to focus on those negatives.

I try to portray an eternally optimistic individual, but I'm also human.

And we all have those days where everything does feel a little bit heavy,

but it's about context, I think. This strive for perfection that people want, whether it's on

Instagram and you're looking at the photos of the perfect body, the perfect figure, the perfect

lifestyle, it doesn't exist. It's an edited version.

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