When we are backchaining, the dog really don't have to listen that well.

You can really just say, go, go, go, go.

Yeah, so it's more of a red light, green light kind of situation.

Because the dog already knows what to do.

So you just have to give him permission to do it now.

That's kind of interesting, I think.

Yeah. So that's kind of interesting, I think. Hey guys. Welcome to Drinking from the Toilet, the podcast for serious training nerds.

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