In March of this year, something happened at Kevin Allen's startup,

as the pandemic was gutting so many other companies,

his business took off.

But there was a catch.

It's like, oh my gosh, if I, if we had cash now,

you would see vigor everywhere.

I mean, everywhere, and we would be growing like crazy, that's not the case and so to be

stymied by such a small amount of cash of capital to be here at this point

you know and I can't leave it now.

I'm Josh Muccio, and you're listening to the pitch from Gimlet Media.

Today on the show, Kevin's dilemma, he needs to capitalize on this moment, but can he convince investors it's worth the risk in the middle of a pandemic?

Kevin appeared on our show once way back in 2017.

Let me tell you, a lot has happened since then. We'll catch up with

Kevin right after this.

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