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🗓️ 23 July 2025
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We continue our discussion of the murders of four University of Idaho students: Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin. The students were killed in Moscow, Idaho, on November 13, 2022. The offender pleaded guilty on July 2, 2025. We continue to explore motive, discuss how we would classify the killer behaviorally, and consider whether he was likely to kill again. Part 2 of 2.
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0:00.0 | In the consult, we discuss cases involving violence, sexual violence, abduction, and and I'm joined by my colleagues. |
0:38.3 | Angela Serser, Susan Costler, Drew, and Bob Drew. |
0:42.3 | Angela, Susan, and Bob are also retired FBI profilers, and we work together in the FBI's |
0:49.3 | behavioral analysis unit. Today is part two of our analysis of what has become known as the |
0:56.5 | Idaho student murders. The quadruple homicide of Madison Mogan, Kaylee Gonzalez, Zana Kurnodal, |
1:04.4 | and Ethan Chapin killed in the early morning hours of November 13, 2022 in Moscow, Idaho. On July 2nd, 2025, Brian Coburger, a 28-year-old |
1:17.2 | PhD student in his first year of the Criminal Justice and Criminology Program at |
1:22.8 | Washington State University in nearby Pullman, Washington, pleaded guilty to their murders. |
1:29.3 | In part one, we reviewed the facts presented by the prosecution at Koberger's change of plea |
1:34.8 | hearing and discussed what they revealed about his behavior and possible motive. |
1:40.1 | We collectively concluded this was most likely a sexually motivated homicide. |
1:45.9 | In this episode, we'll continue exploring the many unanswered questions. |
1:51.0 | While Koeberger's plea deal waived his right to appeal or seek leniency, |
1:55.5 | it did not require him to explain what he did or why. |
2:00.6 | Today, among other things, we'll discuss his |
2:03.1 | potential motive further, how we would classify him behaviorally and whether we believe he |
2:08.9 | would have killed again if he had not been caught. Before we begin, a quick reminder, if you'd |
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2:31.4 | consult discuss our episodes and other true crime topics. |
2:36.0 | Okay, so we previously discussed that we don't believe Koeberger intended to commit a sexual assault when he entered 1122 King Road. |
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