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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

93. Brian Cuban — The Addicted Lawyer: Tales of the Bar, Booze, Blow, and Redemption

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Business, Management, Entrepreneurship, Marketing

5.0539 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

"We know from the Betty Ford Hazelton study that lawyers suffer from alcohol use disorder at a rate almost twice the general public. We know if you're a millennial lawyer, it’s over a third with alcohol use disorder. We are a profession in crisis from that standpoint in terms of mental health. And it's hard to be a game-changing lawyer and it's hard to lead when we're not taking care of our own mental health struggles.” - Brian Cuban What led to Brian Cuban’s struggle with eating disorders and addiction? What caused Brian to eventually seek help? Why did Brian decide to share his story so publicly? What resources are there for lawyers struggling with addiction? How can you build a compassionate community in the legal industry? The Road to Recovery Being a lawyer is stressful: long hours, high stakes situations, the threat of losing cases. As an attorney, people’s lives and potentially millions of dollars depend on you. Many lawyers turn to substances to help them handle that stress. That’s the message that Brian Cuban is here to share through his own personal struggle with addiction and mental health. Brian, brother of billionaire owner of the Dallas Mavericks Mark Cuban, is an attorney and addiction recovery advocate. He’s the author of “The Addicted Lawyer,” which unflinchingly recounts his own addiction to alcohol and cocaine. Brian knows firsthand the vicious cycles of substance abuse and that even high-functioning lawyers might be falling apart inside. On this special episode, we hear about Brian’s long road to recovery, from his fight with body dysmorphia and eating disorders to addiction’s rock bottom, and how he eventually turned his life around. An At-Risk Population One reason that Brian chose to become such a vocal advocate is that he didn’t see any recovery content geared towards lawyers — but the data shows that those in the legal profession are more likely to struggle with addiction than the general population. Plus, the trials of recovery can present unique challenges to attorneys. For instance, one maxim Brian preaches is vulnerability. But that openness is given a negative connotation in law school and training. “We learn to take advantage of vulnerability on the witness stand or in the mediation room or wherever it is,” he says. “You look for weakness, but what we don't look for is our humanity.” This is why Brian is so brutally honest about his own story. As he puts it, “I am an expert in my journey, nothing more...If you can take some commonality and apply that to yourself in taking a positive step, that is wonderful.” Key takeaways: You can’t love somebody enough to make them recover. They have to be ready to take that step on their own. Vulnerability is key. Being honest with yourself and others is an important piece of recovery. Create a compassionate community. Check in on your colleagues. You can’t be there for them if you don’t know that they’re struggling. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn Brian Cuban Website Brian Cuban LinkedIn Brian Cuban Twitter The Addicted Lawyer American Bar Association - Directory of Lawyer Assistance Programs

Transcript

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0:00.0

This episode of the Game Changing Attorney podcast contains explicit content and is intended for mature audiences only.

0:06.4

I mean it. This isn't the podcast to listen to with your kids in the car. It is presented unfiltered,

0:11.0

and I hope you listen to it with an open mind and an open heart. In family, you struggle, right?

0:18.1

Our family was no different. How do you pull someone out of that?

0:21.2

How do you get them to want to recover?

0:22.7

You can't.

0:23.8

That's Brian Cuban, attorney, recovery advocate, and bestselling author.

0:28.3

You can't love somebody enough to make them recover.

0:31.8

You can't.

0:33.1

You have to want it.

0:38.8

I'm Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp, the nation's number one law from growth

0:43.0

company.

0:43.8

I've built my business through practice, not theory.

0:46.9

Crisp started with just $500 to my name and has grown to over eight figures in revenue

0:50.7

over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest

0:54.6

growing private companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've learned about

0:59.1

generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most ambitious

1:03.2

and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast,

1:07.5

I sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from those who thrive in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo,

1:15.1

and define what it means to be a true game changer. I sat down with Brian Cuban to discuss

1:20.1

his personal story of depression, addiction, and redemption, the prevalence of mental health challenges

1:25.4

in the legal profession, and how to be an ally to those who are struggling.

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