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The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

92. Michael Mogill — A Constant Work in Progress

The Game Changing Attorney Podcast with Michael Mogill

Michael Mogill

Marketing, Management, Entrepreneurship, Business

5.0540 Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

"You gotta be persistent and relentless. I don't know that there's anybody in this world that things are just going to be given to. People aren't going to go out of their way to help you and make your life easy. You're going to have to take agency over yourself and over your own decisions and say, ‘I'm going to help make this happen.’” - Michael Mogill How did Michael go from being broke to founding and growing a $40 million business? What qualities make a great leader? How do you make effective decisions on big issues? Where does Michael’s competitive streak come from? How can impatience be a good thing? Michael Mogill: The Game Changer Michael Mogill is the Founder and CEO of Crisp. What began as a video production company soon evolved to meet the changing needs of deserving law firm owners: from relentless digital marketing to transformational growth coaching that builds strong business foundations for law firms around the country. Michael and the Crisp team continued to innovate, founding the Game Changers Summit (the largest law firm growth conference on earth), hosting the #1 podcast for legal market leaders, and even authoring the go-to guide on law firm transformation in his best-seller, “The Game Changing Attorney.” In this super special episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael takes a turn in the hot seat as his wife (and Crisp’s Head of Coaching Strategy) Jessica Mogill dives into what it is that makes Michael tick. They’ll explore which qualities Michael values as a leader, how he copes with the pressures of running such a large organization, and we’ll finally find out what Michael thinks it takes to be a game changer. First-Class Leader, Terrible Employee Some of the qualities that make great innovators and entrepreneurs simply don’t gel with most employers’ idea of the model employee. Questioning the status quo and making radical decisions might get you ahead of the competition when you’re running your own business, but they might get you fired if you’re working for someone else. Michael shares how his early experiences as an employee helped to shape him into the leader he is today. He details how a waiting job kickstarted his appetite for competition, and he discusses what he believes to be some of the core tenets of a great boss, such as being the first one in and the last one out and ensuring that everyone else has been taken care of before taking care of yourself. Key takeaways: The worst decision is to delay a decision. Because even making the wrong choice can point you in the right direction. Build from a position of honesty. Creating a business based on tricks and shortcuts might create short-term growth, but will damage your long-term reputation. Trust in others. You can’t scale yourself alongside your business, so allow yourself to trust your team and delegate to others. Links and Resources The Game Changing Attorney Podcast Michael Mogill Facebook Michael Mogill Twitter Michael Mogill Instagram Michael Mogill LinkedIn Jessica Mogill Linkedin Crisp Website Crisp Facebook Crisp Twitter Crisp Instagram Crisp LinkedIn The Game Changers Summit Kolbe Assessment PRINT Assessment

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0:00.0

You gotta be persistent and relentless.

0:04.0

I don't know that there's anybody in this world that things are just going to be given to you, short of being born in a trust fund kid.

0:09.0

People aren't going to go out of their way to help you and to make your life easy and what you want it to be.

0:15.0

That's Michael Mogul, founder and CEO of Crisp.

0:18.0

You're going to have to take, you know, the agency over yourself and over

0:22.1

your own decisions and say, I'm going to help make this happen. I'm Jessica Mogul, head of

0:32.0

coaching strategy at Crisp, the nation's number one law firm growth company. Alongside Michael

0:37.4

Mogul, we've built this business

0:38.8

through practice, not theory. Crisp started with just $500 to Michael's name and has grown to over

0:45.0

eight figures in revenue over the last few years, earning a spot on the Inc. 500 list of the fastest

0:50.6

growing private companies in America. Our approach has been to take everything we've

0:55.5

learned about generating massive growth within our own organization and help the country's most

0:59.9

ambitious and committed law firm owners do the same for theirs. In each episode of this podcast,

1:05.2

we sit down with innovative market leaders from the legal industry and beyond to learn from

1:10.6

those who thrive

1:11.4

in the face of adversity, challenge the status quo, and define what it means to be a true

1:15.9

game changer. I sat down with Michael Mogul to discuss why quote, unquote, overnight success

1:22.7

stories are a complete misnomer, how the most successful leaders make and stick with their decisions,

1:29.3

and why leading with transparency builds a culture of trust. At the end of the day, we can look

1:35.1

our girls in the eyes and say, like, we are doing this the right way. There's no secrets. There's no

1:40.4

catacombs. You can go down by the basement of the office and you're like, oh, man,

1:44.4

they've where are these skulls, right? There's none of that. And it's not to say that it hasn't been difficult, it hasn't been challenging. And look, I'm not perfect. We're not perfect. We make mistakes all the time. I make mistakes all the time. But the intent is to do it right. So I think that if you're trying to create something great,

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