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So my guest today is Catherine Lacey, author of a novel called Biography of X.

Originally I wrote like a whole draft. It was a lot longer and it was much drier. The reason that

draft was, it was kind of boring. or so my agent told me and she was

right, even though I, while I was writing it, I didn't think that it was boring because I was

kind of getting the, you know, the geography of the world that I was working it down. And so it was

interesting to me. But it was boring as a book because it was, it was written too straight. And I had,

I had everything in it. And I had written it as if we all know who X is or was and I had to kind of throw out that whole draft and I had to bring CM more in her research had to become more a part of the of the book and her unraveling had to become a part of it.

And I did start thinking about it as a detective story.

Okay, that was Catherine Lacey, author of the novel Biography of X, now available in trade

paperback from Piccador.

Biography of X is a hard book to summarize.

It's a novel, masquerading as a biography, masquerading as a detective story, masquerading

as investigative journalism, masquerading as a memoir.

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