I'm not pulling out of the driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for other drive to work, coronavirus edition.

So using my time at home to interview interesting people, all about magic. So another interesting person has joined us. Melissa Dutora.

Welcome.

Hey, everyone. Thanks for having me.

So today, we have a topic today because you recently, relatively recently, put together a brand

new team called the casual play team.

So I'll talk a little bit about what does that mean?

What is this team up to?

And then we're going to talk about casual play and what casual play means.

Sounds good. So I guess I can start by talking about what the casual play team is up to. And like, why did we even make it in the first place?

Well, a big reason why we made this team is because we are making more and more products these days.

And we need more resources

for playtesting these products. And we didn't really have an efficient way to playtest commander.

So it was really important to us to actually have a playtesting team dedicated to playtesting

commander because it was not really something that was done as efficiently as we wanted to in the past.

And like I said, as we're making more and more cards and sets, and especially commander

products, like, it's really important that we have ways to test them.

So our team was born.

So one of the things that's always fascinated me, and I've written articles on this and stuff,

is just what exactly casual play is. And I think there's no one single answer. I think

casual play actually covers a bunch of different things. So I want to talk a little bit with you

about what does casual play mean to you? Sure. So as some of you may know,

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