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So my guest today is Leslie Jameson, author of a new memoir called Splinters.

I think in a way it never gets totally comfortable, and I don't think it should ever get totally comfortable.

And by it, I guess I mean, well, making art, period.

Like, I believe that part of

what it means to make art, at least for me, is to feel kind of thrust into this space of

bewilderment and desire and unknowing at the beginning of the project where it's like, how do I do

this? I don't quite know how to do this.

I'm trying to do something that I haven't quite done before.

And if I somehow don't have that feeling, if I don't feel like how do I fucking do this,

it means that I haven't.

I'm not on the right project yet because I'm in Jesus.

All right.

That was Leslie Jameson, author of The Memoir Splinters,

available now from Little Brown and Company.

In Splinters, Leslie Jamison has written a very powerful book about the transformations

she experienced upon becoming a mother and when her marriage fell apart not long

afterward. Over the course of this book, Leslie Jamison also reckons with her past, her own

family history, her history with substance abuse and anorexia, among other things. And one of the great

thrills of this book is seeing the ways in which Leslie Jameson is able to connect the dots

and draw associations and weave these threads together in the service of the story she is telling.

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