It is absolutely fantastic to be with you. Eve Rodsky, author of fair play.

It's super important book, key part of a conversation for being able to create

essentialism in your home,

with your partner.

If there's challenges in trying to work out

who should be doing what, this is for you.

But Eve is also fascinating play in the world beyond this book, but in working with some

fascinating, highly complex families is part of her background and expertise and so whatever your family

looks like whatever the complexities are whatever the challenges are if you want to try and

make your life more equal, more balanced, more fair, more

essentialist. Eve is here to help us. Welcome to the show.

Thank you, Greg. I'm just laughing because yes, my day job is working with highly complex families.

So I appreciate you giving me that lens as well because that's sort of where fair play was

originated, but I don't get to talk about that a lot.

What can you tell us about that? I don't mean any specific families and names of course, but just what can you

tell us to give us that context and expertise that brought you to this

subject?

Well, I'll say that this journey started from fair play, you know, and I'm going to assume that your listeners have not read it and if they have they've heard the story because it's the intro.

But this book, Fair Play, started with a text that my husband Seth sent me after our second son, Ben, was born, and that text

just said, I'm surprised you didn't get blueberries.

So probably a very innocuous text from him, but one that had me sobbing on the side of the road, thinking to myself, well, first I was thinking that if my marriage is going to end, Greg, that it should be over like my affair with an NFL player or something way more dramatic, but it started

with this very cliche argument over my need to be my husband's the filler of his smoothie needs, that day is really important

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