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Bad People

9. Unimaginable: Can we understand paedophiles?

Bad People

BBC

True Crime

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In the small Danish town Tønder, a man is talking to a friend when the conversation takes a dark turn. His friend asks him whether he wants to have sex with an 11-year-old girl. He immediately alerts the police. On this episode of Bad People, presenters Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen discuss how violence is - and isn’t - passed down through generations. Also on the show, the psychology of child sexual abuse and exploitation, and why it’s so important to have difficult conversations about paedophilia. Warning: This episode contains strong language and references to sexual violence and child abuse. Presenters: Dr. Julia Shaw and Sofie Hagen Producers: Louisa Field and Caroline Steel Assistant Producer: Simona Rata Music: Matt Chandler Series Editor: Rami Tzabar Commissioning Producer: Hannah Rose Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Commissioning Editor: Jason Phipps Bad People is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds #BadPeople_BBC

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0:00.0

You're about to listen to a BBC podcast and trust me you'll get there in a moment but if you're a comedy fan

0:05.2

I'd really like to tell you a bit about what we do. I'm Julie Mackenzie and I commission comedy

0:10.2

podcast at the BBC. It's a bit of a dream job really.

0:13.0

Comedy is a fantastic joyous thing to do because really you're making people laugh,

0:18.0

making people's days a bit better, helping them process, all manner of things.

0:22.0

But you know I also know that comedy is really

0:24.4

subjective and everyone has different tastes so we've got a huge range of comedy on offer

0:29.6

from satire to silly shocking to soothing profound to just general pratting about. So if you

0:36.2

fancy a laugh, find your next comedy at BBC Sounds.

0:41.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:45.0

So do we just start?

0:47.0

Is that the plan?

0:48.0

Okay.

0:49.0

Welcome to Bad People. This is the podcast that explores humanity's dark side.

0:57.0

I'm stand-up comedian Sophie Hagen and here to help me understand why people do terrible things is my co-host criminal psychologist

1:05.2

Dr Julia Shaw. Hi Sophie and listeners if you are a regular to the show which we hope

1:11.1

you are then you will know that I'm usually the storyteller but today we have swapped roles sort of anyway I will still be providing relevant insights from psychological science

1:21.2

That's right because the day's story is from my home country of Denmark, and it's a story that really

1:27.2

shocked the nation of Denmark.

1:29.4

This episode contains strong language and references to extreme violence.

1:34.0

Please be aware that this episode might be hard to listen to.

1:37.0

The story is about abuse, neglect, rape and abandonment of children.

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