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What Came Next

9: [Sarah Edmondson - MAX's The Vow] I Got Out

What Came Next

Broken Cycle Media

Documentary, Education, True Crime, Society & Culture, Self-improvement

4.4627 Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

*Content warning: This episode includes discussion of coercive control, cults, cultic abuse, branding, emotional, physical, and sexual abuse, rape, & sex slavery.

Sarah Edmondson is an actor, author, podcaster, victim advocate, & mother who has appeared in many publications and productions, including HBO’s The Vow. She found her passion for the performing arts at a young age, and has seen great success in front of the camera. Her roles in front of them have drastically shifted over the last decade though; she now uses the spotlight to share her experiences in NXIVM. Sarah was tested to her limits by her journey within the multi-level marketing sex cult, and we are so grateful she was willing to talk to us about how she’s turned what came next for her into education for the masses.

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Sources:
Sarah’s Cultic Abuse & Coercive Control Resources:
https://www.sarahedmondson.com/resources

Sarah’s Instagram: 
http://www.instagram.com/sarahedmondson

A Little But Culty on Instagram:
https://instagram.com/alittlebitculty

Sarah’s podcast, A Little Bit Culty:
https://alittlebitculty.com/

Sarah’s Book, Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life
https://amzn.to/3RwmmY2

NY Times on NXIVM 10/17/17
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/nyregion/nxivm-women-branded-albany.html

HBO’s The Vow
https://www.hbo.com/the-vow

Psychology Today, Understanding the Basics of Cults:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-mind/202106/understanding-cults-the-basics

Combatting Cult Mind Control by Steven Hassan
https://amzn.to/3BaCQz

Insider.com on the Legal Progression of the NXIVM trials:
https://www.insider.com/what-is-nxivm-keith-raniere-explainer-2019-4#june-30-2021-allison-mack-was-sentenced-to-3-years-in-prison-27

I Got Out Movement
http://igotout.org

Cult Info Since 1979 via International Cultic Studies Association
https://www.icsahome.com/articles/prevalence

For free and confidential resources, please visit: somethingwaswrong.com/resources 


Transcript

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0:00.0

What Came Next is brought to you by Better Help.

0:03.7

What Came Next is intended for mature audiences only.

0:08.3

Episodes discuss topics that can be triggering,

0:10.7

such as emotional, physical, and sexual violence, suicide, and murder.

0:15.3

I am not a therapist, nor am I a doctor.

0:18.3

If you're in need of support, please visit something was wrong.com

0:21.6

forward slash resources for a list of non-profit organizations that can help.

0:26.5

Opinions expressed by my guests on the show are their own and do not necessarily represent

0:31.1

the views of myself or broken cycle media. Resources and source material are linked in the

0:36.9

episode notes. Thank you so much for listening.

0:42.3

Sarah Edmondson is an actor, author, podcaster, victim advocate, and mother from Vancouver.

0:49.8

She found her passion for the performing arts at a young age and has seen great success in front of the camera.

0:56.0

Her roles in front of them have drastically shifted over the last decade, though.

1:00.0

She now uses the spotlight from her book, podcast, and HBO's The Vow to share her experiences in Nexium.

1:08.0

Sarah was truly tested to her limits by her journey in the multi-level marketing sex

1:12.7

cult, and I am so thankful she's here with us today to talk about how she's turned what came

1:17.9

next for her into education for the masses.

1:47.6

Music I am a mom of two, three-year-old and an eight-year-old.

1:48.9

We just moved to Atlanta.

1:52.0

I've been living in Vancouver most of my life except for university.

1:58.1

And a year in Israel when I was 18, I went to a camp as part of Habonim Drawer, which was actually a little bit culty.

2:02.6

Now that I know what I know, so it was like 10 months total. We worked the land, we traveled. It was an experience.

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