meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Uncharted with Hannah Fry

9. Access Denied

Uncharted with Hannah Fry

BBC

Science

4.8609 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2023

⏱️ 14 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

A young researcher gains access to a secretive data set and discovers something shocking. What happens when a system designed to help people harms them instead?

Hannah Fry tells a tale about the mysterious realm of artificial intelligence.

Episode Producers: Lauren Armstrong-Carter and Clem Hitchcock Sound Design: Jon Nicholls Story Editor: John Yorke

A series for Radio 4 by BBC Science in Cardiff.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

0:09.7

A busy Chicago hospital.

0:13.6

A weary doctor.

0:16.6

And before him, a patient breathing heavily in ragged gasps.

0:22.4

The doctor has been on shift for 14 hours.

0:25.7

He's struggling to think straight.

0:28.5

The patient shows ominous symptoms of a heart attack.

0:33.6

And yet, this could well be a simple case of panic.

0:38.0

The doctor must make a choice.

0:43.9

Does he send the patient home with a simple pill to calm them down,

0:48.0

or summon a cardiac expert diverting a medic away from other patients who also need their care.

0:55.3

Either will have potentially difficult, if not fatal, consequences.

1:00.7

After many of my shifts in the emergency department, I would just go home and lie in bed

1:07.2

just agonizing about all of these decisions that I made.

1:11.1

That is the voice of Dr. Zayad Obermeier.

1:14.3

He now works in machine learning at the University of California in Berkeley.

1:18.6

But as you can probably tell, once upon a time, he was a doctor himself.

1:22.2

You know, you work a shift one day and the next day a colleague comes up to you and says,

1:27.7

hey, do you remember that patient that you saw yesterday and your stomach just sinks

1:32.5

because you're the one who's responsible for a lot of really important decisions.

1:36.9

I think you're all too aware of how often those decisions go wrong.

1:42.2

You'll know by now that the advocates of artificial intelligence promise that there is an easier way.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BBC, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of BBC and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.