Hello everyone and welcome to Saturn Returns with me Kagi Dunlop. This is a

podcast that aims to bring clarity during transitional times where there can be

confusion and doubt.

I don't think being grateful is keeping yourself in the same place just for the sake of

being grateful. That's not what gratitude is. Gratitude is acknowledging

what you have and that you value it and that you will do your best for me to help others

but then also figuring out what your next stops are and how to unstick yourself and how to find

your way back to you.

Today I sit down with a lovely Mirror Lee Patel who is a self-taught artist, writer and

internationally recognized best-selling author. I love this conversation because

we got to talk about creativity which is such an important aspect of my being

and my life right now and something that I'm really trying to lean further into.

But also what came through in this conversation was the importance of setting your own boundaries

and prioritizing creativity and rest and learning to say no to things and it was a really calming episode for me in

conversation so I hope that you guys enjoy it.

Niro, welcome to the Saturn Returns podcast for those that aren't familiar with your

work a little bit about you who you are and what you do.

Sure so I'm Miralee Patel I am an author and illustrator and I

write books for a living and all of my work encourages people to really look inside themselves

for the answers of the questions that plague them namely you know who they, what do they want to do with their time,

what kind of community do they want to surround themselves with, and how to get unstuck if you feel like you're in a place in life where you feel stuck or where you don't know what you want from yourself or the world. My work tries to help you figure that out.

Everything he just said is basically everyone that listens to this

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