you

So at some point I suppose we should do full team coverage on Nikki Monage and

Cardi B got in a actual fist fight at some music event. We can roll it around

on the floor pulling on their hair and trying to gouge each other's eyes out.

A shoe was thrown. A shoe was thrown. That's good stuff right there. So yes, full team coverage on that later in the program.

Yeah, super great. Something to look forward to. Meanwhile, if I might take the conversation to a higher plane,

it's a pleasure to welcome back to the Armstrong and Getty show after too long. And absent Greg looky on off

off through along with Jonathan Height of the Coddling of the American Mind and a book length extension examination of their

terrific groundbreaking Atlantic article of a couple of months ago or a couple of years ago rather.

Greg is also I believe one of the founders of fire defending individual rights in higher education joins us now. Hello Greg. How are you sir?

That's great to be back. Thank you. How long ago was that Atlantic article?

It was a 2015. It was summer of 2015. Wow. Well, you didn't turn things around with that article because things are worse now than they were.

Hey, hey, hey, you have to slow the ship before you turn it. Yeah.

By the way, we decided to write the book and things got so much crazier after we wrote the article. We're like, oh, okay.

I think we have to go a little deeper in the world. Yeah. Okay. A couple of quick notes before we dive into it in depth, Greg.

Number one, I am proudly sending my youngest to a university that gets a green light from fire.

Flora for communication. And I thank you for furnishing that resource. Secondly, as I was googling your book and typed simply the

cod your book came up immediately instead of that delicious fish. So it is it is getting it is getting some

as some some attention. Thank God. So let's talk about the coddling of the American mind, specifically young minds and the damage that's

being done. What led us to where we are now? Well, the whole book is trying to figure out what exactly happened around 2013, 2014.

And my my simple perspective is I started working on campuses back in 2001. And for my entire career, the best

constituency for freedom of speech were the students themselves. And then sometime around 2013, 2014, we saw this sort of

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