I'm not pulling out of the driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work.

Coronavirus edition. Okay, using my time at home to talk with magic people past and present. Today is a little more past.

So I have Devin Lowe, and we're going to talk about Shadowmore. Hey, Devin.

Hey, Mark, thanks for having me back. Okay, so let me set the scene for Shadowmore.

And so what happened was we made Cold Snap, which was like a fourth set that we added right

to the end of things. It got added late. It was kind of chaotic. And we were not happy with

sort of how it all ended up. So I said to Bill,

I go, Bill, next time you want to have four sets in a year, tell me, and I'll make the year make

sense. It won't just be a random thing thrown in. I'll make it make sense. And so Bill came up

to me and goes, okay, next year's four sets, make it make sense. And so I came back with this idea of two mini blocks,

because at the time blocks were three sets,

so two sets were mini block.

And the idea was there would be two connected sets

that were large, small, both large, small,

but they would be themes that each set would have its own theme,

but the other set would coincidentally match that theme so they played nicely together.

And that the idea was the world, it would be one world, somehow connected between that.

And we worked with the creative team, and I mean, kind of a low-hanging fruit is what we did is this world that transforms and so there's the light

side of the world which was Lorwyn there was the dark side of the world which is Shadowmoor

so what is your let's get you where do you first get involved in this where in this timeline

I'm explaining where did you first get involved yeah I was the lead final designer

of Lorwyn and uh was the head developer back in those days and so I was very involved in

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