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Hello, everyone. My guest today is Bastin Gerald.

He is the CEO of a company called Aptivo.

He's an enterprise software veteran,

worked for Oracle and Cash Edge, now part of Fiserve, prior to founding Aptivo. Working to change

the way small business will run their business to minimize costs, optimize business processes,

and make better business decisions. He's got an app suite. We're going to talk about it today.

Bastian, are you ready to take us to the top? Absolutely. Okay, good. So tell us what, tell us what Aptibo does and what's your business model. How do you make

money? It's a enterprise business software, but focused on small businesses. So we actually have...

Well, wait, Bastian, hold on. That's contradictory. So is it a small business or enterprise?

Well, it's kind of like, it's small business focus.

But what we are trying to do is what the oracles and SAPs of the world did to the large enterprises.

We are trying to bring that same set of software for the small businesses because small businesses need them more than enterprises, in my opinion, because they're juggling like too many balls, and they don't really have one integrated solution today, or actually

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