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Otherppl with Brad Listi

892. Ishmael Reed

Otherppl with Brad Listi

Brad Listi

Arts, Society & Culture, Books

4.8554 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2024

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Ishmael Reed is the author of the play The Slave Who Loved Caviar, now available in print from Archway Editions. Ishmael Reed is the author of over twenty-five books including Mumbo Jumbo, Yellow Back Radio Broke-Down, Conjugating Hindi, Why No Confederate Statues in Mexico and most recently Malcolm and Me and Why the Black Hole Sings the Blues. He is also a publisher, television producer, songwriter, radio and television commentator, lecturer, and has long been devoted to exploring an alternative black aesthetic: the trickster tradition, or Neo-Hoodooism. A regular contributor to CounterPunch and founder of the Before Columbus Foundation, he taught at the University of California, Berkeley for over thirty years, retiring in 2005. Reed is the only person to be nominated for the National Book Award in two categories in the same year. *** Otherppl with Brad Listi is a weekly literary podcast featuring in-depth interviews with today's leading writers. Available where podcasts are available: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, etc. Subscribe to Brad Listi’s email newsletter. Support the show on Patreon Merch Twitter Instagram  TikTok Bluesky Email the show: letters [at] otherppl [dot] com The podcast is a proud affiliate partner of Bookshop, working to support local, independent bookstores. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Other People podcast. I'm Brad Listy and I'm in Los Angeles.

0:12.1

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0:35.0

So my guest today is Ishmael Reed, author of a play called The Slave Who Loved Caviar.

0:46.0

And Warhol really disses about Scott, said he was dirty, he would never sleep with him, that he was a nuisance.

0:55.5

And in one situation, and Warhol admits this in one of the books I use as a bibliography,

1:00.2

in part of my bibliography, he assaults him in Italy.

1:03.8

He slaps him.

1:05.1

And then he sort of like brags about it, boast about about his slapping of Askiyat.

1:16.5

So I say these guys, these people, this is a decadent cult down there, kill this kid.

1:19.8

He's only his 20s. He committed suit. He died of an overdose.

1:24.9

And one of his girlfriends, the only one, Powell, the only one who really cared about him,

1:27.9

asked Warhol for an intervention.

1:31.9

She said his drug habit has gotten out of control.

1:34.5

And we're all equipped.

1:36.9

Well, maybe he wants to be the first one to go out early.

1:38.3

All right.

1:39.7

That was Ishmael Reed.

1:47.2

His play is called The Slave Who Loved Caviar, available now in print from Archway Editions.

1:58.4

The Slave Who Loved Caviar is a re-examination of the relationship between artist Jean-Michelle Basquiat and Andy Warhol.

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