I'm not pulling out of my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for other drive to work.

Coronavirus edition. So using my time at home to do interviews, and today I have Yanni, who is the lead designer of Strick-Saven.

Hey, Yanni. Yanni, Skullnick. Hey. Hey, Mark. Thanks for having me on.

Okay, so this isn't interesting.

I actually had a podcast with Ari.

Ari Me, we were talking about the vision design of this set, and I had it with Taylor,

and we talked about the art design of the set.

So you're on to talk about the set design.

So the audience, if they really want to get a sense of all the different parts,

this one set I've had a lot of different people on.

So you can get a lot of facets of what different people are doing.

So let's talk a little bit about set design.

So I finished this set.

I led the vision, and I handed you a file and a document.

So let's pick up the story from there.

Yeah. So Eric Lauer led the first month of set design as kind of a transition period. Our biggest

focus there was looking at what would be the mechanic that added casting more spells to the game.

We decided that flashback, which you handed off, didn't make a lot of sense.

We wanted to save it for Inestrade, and we felt like doing it in both sets,

wasn't something that felt right.

So we kind of got right away to looking for a thing to replace a flashback with,

which ended up being learned lesson. Okay. How did you get to learn lesson? How did, how did you get

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