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87. Keeping Her Killer Brother Behind Bars: The Tenacity of Amy Chesler

All The Wiser

Kimi Culp

Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.9652 Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Amy Chesler always knew her brother Jesse struggled with anger. He never developed the tools to manage his emotions. But then he started taking his frustrations out on her in harmful and abusive ways. The power and control he exerted over Amy was just the beginning. In this chilling and powerful episode, Amy shares the story of the day her brother killed their mother, her fight to navigate a difficult legal system for justice, and ultimately how she stayed alive.


In this episode:

  • Undiagnosed mental illness.
  • Understanding the effects of sibling abuse.
  • Discerning the types of abuse.
  • The aftermath of her mother’s murder.
  • Healing the pain and trauma through educating and storytelling.
  • The need for a shift in the narrative of true crime.


Resources & Links:

Book: Working For Justice: One Family's Tale of Murder, Betrayal, and Healing

Podcast: What Came Next

Website: www.amybchesler.com

Instagram: @amybchesler

Facebook: Amy B Chesler

Twitter: @amybchesler

LinkedIn: Amy-Chesler

Charity: The Army of Survivors


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1:04.3

abusive. And thank you for actually allowing me to come to terms of what could happen if I allow this to keep going

1:12.4

in the same manner. Not that that onus of responsibility is on the victim, but there are

1:19.0

practices that can be put into place that make it a safer environment that my mom didn't know

1:24.9

at the time.

1:26.8

Amy Chesler and her mom Hadass had that mother-daughter best friend type of relationship.

1:33.3

It was open, honest, and full of love.

1:37.3

Hadass was a respected public school teacher and a single mother to Amy and her brother Jesse. Money was tight and they moved

1:46.8

around a lot as kids, but they eventually settled in Calabasas, California. You know, living on one

1:53.9

parent's salary was hard, especially in Calabasas, but my mom wanted to give us as good

1:59.4

of life as possible.

2:05.0

And my brother started getting picked on. We both did, actually. It wasn't the easiest childhood, I would say, with the moving and the bullying. But my brother definitely navigated it

2:12.8

differently and had different tools that did not include resiliency and tenacity that I suppose I did.

2:22.0

At a young age, Amy and Jesse began to change in very different and significant ways.

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