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The Talk Show With John Gruber

86: ‘Diddling Your Feeds’ With Dave Wiskus

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2014

⏱️ 147 minutes

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Summary

Topics include the new look and feel in OS X Yosemite (10.10), Google’s new “Material Design” look and feel for Android, smartwatches (including the new ones Google showed at I/O last week), and Dave’s new behind-the-scenes role at The Talk Show.

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0:00.0

You've got a bigger role on the show. I don't, we've never really talked about it, but you

0:03.6

now have significantly, I mean, second to me, maybe even more than me, a bigger role on the show.

0:11.1

I got to tell you the editing on your show, Lili, has been outstanding.

0:15.7

So Dave Wiskus now does the editing of the show. I don't, we actually were just talking about

0:20.8

this the other day. I've actually never listened to a complete episode of The Talk Show.

0:24.9

I don't think I have either.

0:25.9

Well, when, when I'm doing the edit, sometimes I'm just looking for, you know, the

0:31.2

where things overlap. So I mean, I've listened to the whole thing, but when I'm doing like the editing

0:35.3

part, I'm just looking for it's, it's kind of like looking at the matrix. How long does it take

0:40.0

you to edit an episode? Of The Talk Show, like a two hour episode will take about two hours

0:46.7

in real time. Yeah, about, yeah. I think most people seem to say it takes usually about 1.5

0:54.2

x. I think Mark Oathe seems to say it takes him around three hours for, for an ATP.

0:59.3

Well, that's if the show is more than two people. The two person show is pretty easy to edit,

1:03.9

because things don't, you don't, you don't ever run into a situation where three people are

1:07.2

trying to talk at the same time. Right. Yeah, that's probably the biggest problem, right?

1:12.4

Is wing ahead because you're, you're unprofessional, always has three people because it's you and Jamie

1:17.3

and a guest, at least one guest. Yeah. Yeah. And so I pretty much have to listen to the show,

1:21.5

like every second of the audio to make sure that things are right. And it's, sometimes people

1:25.7

will monologue a little bit and that gives me a chance to skip ahead a couple of seconds.

1:31.2

Is it's not like I'm listening to make sure that they're, I mean, I was there, I know what they

1:34.8

said. So I don't have to worry about content. I'm more listening for audio and when things overlap

1:38.9

and making sure there's not weird background noise and stuff like that. Cross talk is not, is,

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