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People I (Mostly) Admire

85. What It Takes to Know Everything

People I (Mostly) Admire

Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Society & Culture

4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Victoria Groce is one of the best trivia contestants on earth. She explains the structure of a good question, why she knits during competitions, and how to memorize 160,000 flashcards.

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0:00.0

My guest today, Victoria Gross, is likely the world's greatest trivia quizzer, the

0:10.6

very mention of her name since waves of panic through her competitors.

0:14.7

She's not as high profile as past Jeopardy Champion and Jeopardy host Ken Jennings, but

0:18.9

like Ken, she's parlayed trivia greatness into her own TV gig on ABC's The Chase.

0:25.4

As far as I've concerned, I have the best shot in trivia.

0:29.5

Welcome to People I Mostly Admire with Steve Levin.

0:37.2

How does someone become world-class of trivia?

0:40.4

Or maybe a better question is, why would someone want to become world-class of trivia?

0:45.3

And how can knitting be used as a form of intimidation?

0:48.8

Hopefully, I can get Victoria Gross, the queen of trivia to answer those questions and

0:54.1

many more.

0:59.5

We certainly have had remarkable success in trivia competitions the last few years.

1:05.0

In the world quizzing championship, you finished third and seventh in the Learned League

1:10.5

Championship, which is the biggest US-based trivia league with over 25,000 competitors.

1:16.2

You are one of only two people who finished in the top ten three years in a row.

1:22.5

So I suspect there are some people out there who are blown away by these achievements,

1:27.3

and I suspect there's a much larger group saying themselves, I didn't even realize there's

1:31.8

a subculture of adults who obsessed with competitive trivia.

1:35.8

There's a knitting writer I like who once described herself as being a very big name in

1:39.8

some very small rooms.

1:42.0

I think that's an excellent description of this community.

1:45.2

So like any hyper competitive activity, there's a standard path to becoming elite from a

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