I'm not pulling on my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for other drive to work, coronavirus edition.

So I've been doing a lot of interviews while I've been stuck at home, and some of them have been with people from the present and some from the past.

So today I'm going way back. So I have Chris Page with me today to talk about the design of Ice Age. So welcome, Chris.

Hi.

Okay, so I want to do a little setup for the audience because not a lot of them know some of the,

so way back when when Magic first started, Richard had a lot of play tefters, which you were one

of them back before the game came out. Yeah. And then Richard sensing that maybe one day, he didn't realize how quickly, but maybe one day

there should be more magic, he had some of the playtefters, different groups went off

and made their own set as something the magic might need.

So you were among what we now call the East Coast Playtefters,

which was you, Scafellius.

He added me to that group.

I'm sorry, go ahead.

He added me to that group.

There was three people,

Scaff, Jim, and Dave.

Right, so Scafellius, Jim Lynn, Dave, Patty.

Go ahead.

Yeah. And Richard added me to those people, because I had already been feeding him lists of card ideas back in the beta part of the playtest.

So my card ideas got used in the gamma playtest. So he wanted to grab me for someone, for one of the groups,

and I was not push you as far as being part of a group.

So let's go back to the very beginning of Ice Age.

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