#851: CRMC Keynote Speaker David Avrin on customer loyalty and being easy to do business with
The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX
The Agile Brand
4.9 • 113 Ratings
🗓️ 28 April 2026
⏱️ 26 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Greg Kilstrom, your host of the Agile brand, and here's a question for you. |
| 0:04.8 | What if the key to customer loyalty isn't about creating memorable, delightful moments, but |
| 0:09.2 | about being utterly forgettable in the best possible way? |
| 0:13.5 | Agility requires more than just rapid campaign execution. |
| 0:16.9 | It demands a deep-seated ability to reevaluate and re-engineer core processes in response to shifting customer expectations. |
| 0:24.7 | Today we're going to talk about the powerful and perhaps counterintuitive idea that the greatest predictor of customer loyalty isn't satisfaction or delight, but simply how easy you are to do business with. |
| 0:35.5 | We're going to explore why reducing customer effort is a critical |
| 0:38.4 | competitive advantage and how enterprise brands can identify and eliminate the points of friction |
| 0:43.6 | that drive customers away. Welcome to Season 8 of the Agile Brand podcast. This season we're |
| 0:51.7 | going all in on expert mode, MartEC, AI, and customer experience, |
| 0:55.8 | talking with the people and platforms behind the brands you know and love. Again, I'm your host, |
| 1:00.3 | Greg Kilstrom, and I help Fortune 1000 companies make sense of MARTEC, AI, and marketing ops. |
| 1:05.7 | Hit subscribe or follow to make sure you always get the latest episodes and leave us a rating |
| 1:09.8 | so others can find us as well. |
| 1:12.4 | This episode is brought to you by CRMC. Drive your customers to New Horizons at the premier retail event of the year for retail and brand marketers. |
| 1:21.1 | Learn more about CRMC 26, June 1 through 3 in Frisco, Texas at www. www. the CRMC.com. |
| 1:31.8 | To all me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome David Averin, CX keynote speaker and author at |
| 1:37.5 | Ridiculously Easy International, and keynote speaker at CRMC, taking place June 1 through 3 in Frisco, |
| 1:44.0 | Texas. David, welcome |
| 1:45.4 | to the show. Thank you so much for having me. I'm looking forward to this. I'm absolutely |
| 1:49.7 | looking forward to the CRMC conference coming up at the beginning of June as well. What a stellar |
| 1:56.1 | lineup. And not just from the main stage, but in terms of those in the audience as well, it's |
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