#846: Red Points' Daniel Shapiro on brand protection in a deepfake world
The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX
The Agile Brand
4.9 • 113 Ratings
🗓️ 20 April 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | In an age of AI-powered, deepfakes, and sophisticated counterfeits, is your brand's core identity |
| 0:05.4 | becoming more of a liability than an asset online? Agility requires moving beyond just building |
| 0:11.2 | a brand to actively and continuously protecting its integrity in a digital landscape where |
| 0:16.1 | threats evolve at the speed of AI. This isn't just a defensive tactic. It's a core component of maintaining |
| 0:21.7 | customer trust and lifetime value. Today we're going to talk about the often overlooked |
| 0:26.9 | other side of brand building, brand protection. In our rush to create amazing customer experiences |
| 0:32.9 | and leverage new technologies, we're also creating new vulnerabilities for counterfeiters, impersonators, |
| 0:38.7 | and fraudsters to exploit, ultimately eroding the trust and lifetime value we work so hard to build. |
| 0:47.4 | Welcome to Season 8 of the Agile Brand Podcast. This season, we're going all in on |
| 0:51.8 | expert mode, MARTEC, AI, and customer experience, talking |
| 0:55.3 | with the people and platforms behind the brands you know and love. |
| 0:58.5 | Again, I'm your host, Greg Kilstrom, and I help Fortune 1000 companies make sense of |
| 1:02.8 | MARTEC, AI, and marketing ops. |
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| 1:22.3 | Now let's dive in. |
| 1:25.6 | Tell me discuss this topic. |
| 1:27.2 | I'd like to welcome Daniel Shapiro, SVP of brand relationships |
| 1:30.9 | and strategic partnerships at Red Points. Daniel, welcome to the show. Hey, Greg, thanks for having me. |
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