I'm not pulling on my driveway.

We all know what that means.

It's time for another drive to work, coronavirus edition.

Okay, so I've been meeting with R&D of past and present to talk about sets we worked on together.

So today, my guest is Dave Humphreys to talk about Icoria.

Hey, Dave.

Hey, everyone.

Okay, so what is your earliest memory of Ikoria?

Let's see, yeah. I mean, I think I remember, I mean, I was on vision. I remember us trying to

figure out mutate. Certainly that was like one of the earlier things I remember. I mean, I know.

Like, I mean, I felt like we knew that this would sort of be, right?

In our mind, it was kind of the like monsters on a kind of almost tropical island sort of vibe.

Or I forget like exactly what like monster islandish sort of vibe.

So I don't know.

I was pretty excited by that. I've always, right, I'm, I'm a, I'm a biologist by training, now a game designer, but I don't know. Like a lot of that passion comes from just being really interested in stuff like mutations and animals and weird variants of, yeah, creatures throughout the world, our world, and fantasy worlds.

So just to the audience understand, so I led the vision design and Dave led the set design.

And you like being on vision design. Not all set designers are on the vision design, but you enjoy being on the vision design.

Yeah, I mean, I do try to be somewhat hands off compared to if I were on a vision design, but you enjoy being on the vision design. Yeah, I mean, I do try to be somewhat hands-off compared to if I were on a vision design

for, say, another, a set that I wasn't going to be leading later.

But, yeah, I mean, I like to be there to sort of steer things where I see that, you know,

I'm going to be excited to take over.

I mean, I try not to shoot down ideas too much,

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