I'm John Batchel with my very good colleague, Simon Constable, who has published and written

and edited and recorded all manner of journalism over the career that now extends to the

South of France, where he works for Barron's in the Wall Street Journal and other distinguished

publications here and in Europe.

So Simon is completely and only a journalist. I, however, am part journalist and part inquiring

book reader. So it's necessary for me to depend upon Simon to talk about what you're taught

as a journalist. I came to it as

a novelist. And I've learned the rules. They're not hard to learn, especially if you edit

digitally. What am I getting at? The BBC explanation so far of the putting together of pieces of the president's remarks on January 6th,

2021, the day of the pandemonium and riot and unacceptable behavior at the capital by

outsiders. That day, that editing is grotesque from what we have in the reports.

We do not have all of it.

I emphasize there's an investigation that needs to happen.

I don't know who's going to do it.

We need names, dates, text messages, emails, review.

The program panorama appeared in October of 2024 before the election and presented a president who was

calling for violence that day. None of that is accurate. None of that is true. And the BBC has to

provide the details that are missing as of yet. Simon, I'm most interested.

We have a couple of minutes in your reaction

when you first heard about this story.

My reaction was sadness, because if you want to do news,

you want to stick with the facts

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