The simplest way to describe day to day life is just being terrified of everything in the world.

Like every person that you see is an enemy,

no matter what their complexion is.

Because if they're white and they're not in your crew,

they are a traitor. They're a traitor to your people.

They're complicit in the destruction of the white race.

And actually it's the highest order of enemy because we would say like well you know Jews and

blacks and Mexicans like they're just being what they are but like white people

white man should be fighting for his race and when they're not they're a traitor.

So everyone's an enemy.

Everyone who doesn't look like me is immediately an enemy.

Anyone who could even be construed as looking Jewish or whatever is an enemy and then anyone who's not

who's just like a normal looking white guy, they're an enemy also for not being on my side.

Hey there, it's Light Watkins. We are back with another episode of At the End of the Tunnel,

and if this is your first time listening to the show, here is what you are in for today.

I interview luminaries, artists, philanthropists, athletes, creatives, and basically anyone who has gone above and beyond to be the change that they wish to see in the world.

Sometimes they start movements or they create films or they write books that inspire people.

And my guest this week has dedicated his life to getting people out of hate groups.

His name is Arno Michaelis.

Arno is a former racist skinhead who decades ago was one of the founding members of the Northern

Hammer skins, which was one of the largest skinhead groups in America.

He has since converted though into a Buddhist and he is now the author of two books.

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