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THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

83: A Wounded Trump is a Dangerous Trump + A Conversation with David Plouffe

THE OFFICIAL MEA CULPA WITH MICHAEL COHEN ARCHIVE

Audio Up Media

Politics, News

4.88.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2021

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

The criminal indictment of the Trump Organization puts Donald Trump squarely in the crosshairs of legal jeopardy. But a wounded Trump is still a dangerous Trump; creating a new urgency to jumpstart his political life and remain viable as a candidate. He won’t run because he’s afraid to lose. But as long as his MAGA base thinks he’ll run, the more money he can raise. In addition, he can claim that the DA is only coming after him as a political vendetta. But to remain viable, Trump must appeal to an extremist base that is more prone to conspiracy thinking, violence, racism and hatred. All of this was on display last weekend at his first public rally and will only intensify as his legal troubles mount.

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The

0:55.7

Trump Organization and Al Weisselberg. This is very bad news for the Trump Organization because the DA is taking an aggressive attack

1:02.0

and dining the entire Trump Organization and references to the payroll company and others.

1:06.0

So if you were the company hoping to pin this on the employer, get out of it as far as the DA concerned, game over there.

1:12.0

They're going after the whole company. That ensures Donald Trump and others will be drawn out to fight this.

1:16.0

Highlight number two, there are 15 counts here. This is not one or two counts. We're recovering initially.

1:22.0

The verbal oral testimony and statements coming out of the lawyers in court today. That gave us previews where we had the reference to Grand Larsony.

1:31.0

Now we have 15 counts including Larsony, tax fraud, false statements, filing false instruments, falsifying business records.

1:39.0

They are taking what the DA argues was a conspiracy to intentionally and habitually defraud the government's steel money and pay people quote off the books.

1:50.0

That's the language of the indictment. And they're alleging that went on for 15 years.

1:55.0

That this was an off the book scheme with internal spreadsheets with Mr. Weisselberg lying about where he lived to avoid tax authorities in New York.

2:02.0

That there were ingredients and pieces of evidence that showed it was not just a corporate car here or there as the Trump lawyers were claiming but a multi-year elaborate and agreed upon conspiracy.

2:12.0

This is Michael Cohen and you're listening to the Mayo Copa podcast.

2:16.0

Donald Trump may be an endangered species but there's still nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal and even more dangerous than a wounded animal is a wounded Donald Trump.

2:26.0

And if it's less weekends, Magarale is the harbinger of what's to come. Trump today poses an even deeper threat to this nation than he did on January 6th.

2:36.0

Let's rewind a week as I take you to rural Ohio.

2:40.0

Let's hear it for the 45th President of the United States.

2:44.0

Donald J. Trump!

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