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Coronavirus edition.

So I've been sitting down with magic R&D of past and present to talk about sets we made together.

So today is R&D past.

So Matt Place is here to talk about Zendikar.

Welcome, Matt.

Hi, Mark.

Got to be here.

Okay, so Zendikar is a set that Hi, Mark. Got to be here. Okay.

So, Zendikar is a set that, it's a warm spot for both of us.

Both of us are very fond of Zendikar.

And I've told the story of Zendikar numerous times.

So I'm very interested to hear through you, like, what is your version of the story

of Zendigar?

I mean, I'll jump in, obviously.

It is my podcast. But, um, so what is your earliest memory of Zendikar? My earliest memory of Zendikar is you talking about

this. I'm going to say four years, but you can correct me. Four years before we even started

to talk about anything specific to Zendikar, you wanted a lands matters set, right? And you've been talking about this.

And honestly, regrettably, baby, I made fun of you, right? Like, I was like, oh, a lands matter set.

Finally, imagine the gathering lands are going to matter. But when you say it that way,

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