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Welcome to another compelling episode of the Not Oldold better show, Smithsonian Associates interview series on radio and podcast, I'm Paul Vogel saying and today we delve into a riveting chapter of American history with Smithsonian historian John Grinsman.

As we explore the story of the White Awakes, you might not be familiar with this story,

I wasn't, but this is just an extraordinary story of a political

movement that shaped the trajectory of our nation in the tumultuous years leading up to the Civil War.

Amazing, amazing story.

Smithsonian Associate John Grinspin,

a returning guest and curator of political history

at the National Museum of American History

for the Smithsonian Institute will be appearing at Smithsonian

Associates coming up, so please check out our show notes today for more details about

John's upcoming Smithsonian Associates presentation titled

The Wide Awakes, The Forgotten Force that Spurred the Civil War.

John will be joining us today to tell us about his new book,

Wide Awake, and his presentation at Smithsonian Associates.

So stay tuned.

At the dawn of the 1860 presidential campaign,

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