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And welcome to what absolutely promises to not just be a fascinating, but an educational episode of dogma debate because I have Brittany Hartley here with me and she's an

author she wrote the book No Nonsense spirituality all the tools no faith required and I came

across her on TikTok and she's just she's a teacher I mean I feel like I have learned so much

watching her videos so Brittany thanks for coming on the show.

That's my pleasure.

Yeah, my pleasure to be here.

And being a teacher is actually was my day job.

I was a history teacher before I started to do what I do now.

So I found a weird way to be able to still be teaching.

And so my TikToks are very long because I'm like all history teachers,

I'm very long-winded. But I do. It's something that I really enjoy. Oh, that's so great.

That's one of my other passions. I absolutely love history. So you're, but you grew up Mormon.

You grew up deeply in the faith and you lost your faith in your exploration of your religion when you were at theology school.

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