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Dogma Debate

#820 - Charlie Kirk, Drunk Senators & the MAGA Machine: An Insiders Confession

Dogma Debate

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4.3991 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Caroline was a high schooler when she met Charlie Kirk. What came next was years inside the beating heart of the MAGA machine.
On this episode of DOGMA DEBATE, Caroline sits down with Michael Regilio to pull back the curtain on Turning Point USA and the darker truths behind the conservative youth movement.
From wild parties with Republican senators to underage girls being handed alcohol at political events, Caroline exposes the chaos, the hypocrisy — and the real cost of loyalty to the far right.
If you think you know what the MAGA movement looks like from the inside… think again.

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0:00.0

I'm Neil deGrasse Tyson.

0:01.8

Hey, I'm Adam Carolla.

0:03.0

Hi, my name is Penn Gillette.

0:04.5

Not only listening, I'm a guest.

0:06.6

I'm a pen and teller, and I am the fourth listener.

0:09.6

And I am the fourth listener.

0:12.1

And that must make me at least the fourth listener.

0:15.7

It's Dogma Debate with your host, Michael Regillio.

0:20.0

For extra content and to join the conversation, please head over to dogma debate.com and join our Patreon.

0:27.6

And welcome to what promises to be such a fascinating episode of dogma debate, because I have Caroline here.

0:35.6

And Caroline, she worked for Charlie Kirk and

0:39.3

Turning Points USA, but she has turned away from that movement and she's going by Baby Blue right now

0:47.4

online and on TikTok because she's a brand new Democrat, so to speak, and she's come to tell us all

0:53.7

about it. Caroline, welcome to Dogma debate she's come to tell us all about it.

0:54.2

Caroline, welcome to Dogman Debate.

0:56.6

Thank you for having me.

0:57.6

I'm excited to share a little bit about what it was like to be crazy conservative, now

1:02.9

turn progressive.

1:03.9

Wow.

1:04.7

I mean, you're talking, I don't know that I, we were talking a little before the show.

1:09.1

I predate, think crazy conservative I was

1:12.4

just conservative in high school young Republicans but that was you as well I've watched

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