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The Tim & April Show

82. Can Christians Support ICE? Why Allie Beth Stuckey and MAGA are Wrong

The Tim & April Show

TNE Media

News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Politics

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Tim Whittaker, and April Ajoy discuss the rhetoric used by figures like Ali Beth Stuckey, emphasizing the dangers of toxic empathy and the misrepresentation of immigrant statistics. The conversation highlights the need for a compassionate and just approach to immigration, while also addressing the underlying racism and stereotypes that permeate the discourse. Chapters 02:04 Critique of Christian Nationalism 05:48 Empathy and Immigration Policy 11:48 Statistics and Misrepresentation of Immigrants 24:10 Racism and Stereotypes in Immigration 36:14 The Impact of Immigration Policies on Society 41:47 Concluding Thoughts and Call to Action ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This is the Tim and April show, where we unravel, faith, politics, and culture.

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Thank you. an April show where we unravel faith, politics, and culture. Hey everyone, just wanted to let you know that this episode was recorded on Thursday, January 22nd.

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We had a little bit of a delay in getting this to podcast, but just wanted to let you know that we recorded this

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before Alex Prattie was shot and killed by ice agents in Minnesota, and we will be addressing

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