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The Tim & April Show

81. Persecution or Protest? The MAGA Pearl Clutching Continues

The Tim & April Show

TNE Media

News, News Commentary, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, Politics

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

In this episode Tim Whittaker, and April Ajoy discuss the recent events surrounding ICE's actions in Minneapolis, the protest at City's Church, and the broader implications of Christian nationalism. They explore the dehumanization of immigrants, the narrative of Christian persecution, and the historical context of these issues. Chapters 06:54 Protest at City's Church and Christian Persecution Narrative 19:01 ICE's Role and Church Leadership 32:12 Historical Context of Christian Nationalism 49:04 The Complexity of Christian Identity and Politics 01:10:59 Final Thoughts and Community Engagement ____________________________________________________ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you'd like to support our work, you can DONATE here!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Us On Instagram @thenewevangelicals  Subscribe On YouTube @thenewevangelicals The New Evangelicals exists to support those who are tired of how evangelical church has been done before and want to see an authentic faith lived out with Jesus at the center. This show is produced by Josh Gilbert Media | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Joshgilbertmedia.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ We are committed to building a caring community that emulates the ways of Jesus by reclaiming the evangelical tradition and embracing values that build a better way forward. If you’ve been marginalized by your faith, you are welcome here. We’ve built an empathetic and inclusive space that encourages authentic conversations, connections and faith. Whether you consider yourself a Christian, an exvangelical, someone who's questioning your faith, or someone who's left the faith entirely, you are welcome here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Tim and April show where we unravel faith, politics, and culture.

0:19.9

Hi, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Tim and April show. I am April.

0:26.5

I am Tim. Welcome in, friends. Hope you're all hanging in there. We have a very, very, very full show today.

0:34.5

We are all seeing the same news that you are all seeing. We're covering what's happening in Minneapolis, where we're talking about what happened at City's Church. We'll get to that in a minute. Thank you so much for being here. As always, if you're watching on YouTube, please make sure to like this stream and helps get it pushed out to more people. Make sure your sub to our YouTube channel. And if you're watching on Substack, hello, everyone.

1:13.1

Smash that hard button. I think it helps and makes us feel good. Good to see you all. Thanks for being here. Yeah, just punch your phone real hard. So aggressive. You know, did I ever tell you that April? I used to work for Apple. I used to work like in their retail stores. You don't say. Okay, that's how we're starting off the show Just like that, huh?

1:14.6

Okay. That's how we're starting off the show just like that, huh? Yes, you have told me you used to work for Apple. As an Android user, you bring it up a lot. It's been a minute. Let's be real now. I've toned it down recently, okay? But I say that because I had a random thought with the term smash the like button.

1:28.1

Did I ever tell you that I worked as a technician for a little bit as well in their store?

1:32.3

So you would get people with, you know, all the problems, right?

1:34.5

You know, the screens crack, whatever it is.

1:36.8

Usually people understood if your phone was out of warranty, there was a cost associated with the repair, etc.

1:42.1

Every now and then you get someone who would throw like a legitimate fit in the store.

1:49.3

And I have had it happen before where people have thrown their phone across the store into the glass windows.

1:57.4

Oh, no.

1:58.0

So speaking of smashing the like button, don't do that to your phone, but it has happened to me

2:01.8

quite a few times. Yeah. Yeah. Gosh, that's aggressive. Aggressive. How have you, how have you lived?

2:08.0

Barely, barely survived. I'm still on therapy from all the trauma. Oh my gosh. I don't mean to

2:14.9

to mock your time at Apple. I know it was a very dear time of your life. This is so random, but I still have occasional dreams about working there. I really did. As far as the job went, I truly loved it. I'm kind of a tech guy. I'm a tech nerd. And working for Apple was great, except for the fact that it was retail hours. And I just could not get around at some point

2:35.5

working weekends. I couldn't do it. So that's why I stopped. You know, it's so funny. So I played

2:40.1

basketball all like through college. And I still sometimes will have nightmares where I miss a

2:47.2

free throw. It's weird, isn't it?

2:52.0

Yeah.

2:52.7

It's weird how this stuff like stays in your head.

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