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🗓️ 3 December 2023
⏱️ 58 minutes
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When you realize that help is not on the way, what do you do next?
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0:00.0 | A quick warning, there are curse words that are unbeeped in today's episode of the show. |
0:05.4 | If you prefer a beeped version, you can find that at our website, this American Life. |
0:10.0 | org. |
0:11.0 | Saddam Sayale begins each day with a 6 a.m. walk around Cairo. It's the only 30 minutes of his day he gets to himself, |
0:18.0 | before emails and meetings and the chaos of his enormously stressful job begins. |
0:23.3 | His job, right now he's in charge of getting trucks filled with humanitarian aid into Gaza during |
0:29.6 | the current war. |
0:31.6 | He does this of a big American nonprofit called an era that sent aid into |
0:34.6 | Gaza for decades. But since the war every day there are bottlenecks and |
0:38.8 | logistical challenges with all the different governments and agencies and |
0:42.0 | militaries and aid groups |
0:43.2 | involved. I talked him at the end of a very long day of this and I don't know maybe |
0:47.6 | this is a sign of his diplomatic skills. He seemed so calm, so chill that I could not ask him about it. |
0:55.0 | Maybe that's just a facade, but... |
0:58.0 | It is... It is a facade? |
1:00.0 | It is. |
1:01.0 | I had to tell you, like, I learned the hard way to hold myself together. I think I'll break down after things these are, but now I can't. |
1:11.2 | So I'm keeping it. I'm keeping it together. |
1:14.0 | I talked to Saddam twice, just before the recent ceasefire between Israel and Hamas, and then during the |
1:19.1 | ceasefire. |
1:20.1 | I was interested in talking to him because the stakes of any pause in fighting |
1:23.5 | seemed so high for aid workers like him. Before the ceasefire, so little |
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