816 From Manuscript to Market: Writing a Book That Sells with my Editor Joelle Hann
The Terri Cole Show
Terri Cole
4.9 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 26 March 2026
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
Do you have a book in you, waiting to be written? Or are you just curious what a developmental editor actually does for an author? To answer those questions, I invited an extra-special guest on the Terri Cole Show: The editor I work with on my very own books, Joelle Hann.
We chat about how Joelle has become such a precious part of my book-writing team, how she got her start as a developmental editor, and the growth process authors go through as they face the daunting task of finishing their first books!
If you're working on a book and are ready to make it happen, apply to Book Proposal Academy [https://brooklynbookdoctor.com/bpa-tc-show/]. Joelle will personally take a closer look at your book idea and discuss your next best steps! The next cohort starts on April 17th.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hello there, and welcome to this episode of the Cherry Cole Show. I'm so glad you decided to join me. |
| 0:06.8 | I have a very special guest on the show today. Her name is Joelle Ham, and she is an award-winning writer who develops high-level books for major American publishers, and she has been my editor on all of my books. So I met Joelle when I was first writing, |
| 0:26.3 | I was, as I like to say, I was a baby writer and she was my developmental book editor, which we |
| 0:31.9 | talk about in the interview. So she's going to explain sort of the difference between a book |
| 0:36.6 | editor and a book coach because |
| 0:39.3 | they're not the same thing. But I really give Joelle so much credit for teaching me how to be a |
| 0:47.3 | better writer. And she's just her, just her whole trajectory is fascinating. So she has helped so many different people write books from |
| 0:57.5 | spiritual teachers to scholars, to midwives, to moms, entrepreneurs. And she founded Brooklyn Book |
| 1:03.5 | Doctor to help people write transformational books that bring positive change to the world. So I just wanted to get her on here, |
| 1:14.0 | because I also know that she has this great course in book proposal writing. And so many of you |
| 1:19.8 | have asked me about book proposals and how did you do it and what did you learn and this is really a part of her expertise. |
| 1:29.8 | So if you want to learn more about the book writing, the book proposal writing process and why |
| 1:35.0 | it's a good idea to do it, listen to this interesting and informative interview with Joel Han. |
| 1:41.5 | And I hope that you enjoyed as much as I did. |
| 1:59.8 | This is the Terry Cole show, and as you might have guessed, I'm your host, Terry Cole. |
| 2:02.0 | For over two decades, I've been a licensed psychotherapist, love and boundaries expert, and I'm also the founder of the Real Love Revolution |
| 2:07.5 | and Boundary Boot Camp. On this show, I'll bring you simple strategies based on practical psychology, |
| 2:13.7 | inspiring expert interviews, and my own insights and observations from my time on the front lines |
| 2:19.3 | in the fascinating world of entertainment, empowerment, and mental health. |
| 2:23.8 | Now let's get going with today's episode. |
| 2:33.3 | I am super pumped to welcome my friend, Joelle Han, to the Terry Cole show. |
| 2:40.3 | Joelle, welcome. |
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