Welcome to Mac Power Users. I'm David Sparks and joined as always by your friend of mine, Mr. Stephen Hackett.

Hello, Stephen.

Hello, David. How are you?

I am doing well, my friend. We got a little bit of housekeeping, though, before we get to today's guests. What's going on?

Yeah, so Relay, the podcast network that we're on that I own half of, turned 11 years old this past week, which is just unbelievable.

You may remember that last year we did a live show in London, got to meet some NPU listeners there, which is really cool.

Year 11, a little less, you know, fewer fireworks when you turn 11 than when you turn 10, I guess.

But Mike wrote a really nice blog post on his site, and then he and I did a Q&A over on Departures,

which is kind of like the specialty event feed on the relay site.

So go check that out.

And, you know, it's been, it's been an amazing run. We have... the special event feed on the relay site. So go check that out.

And, you know, it's been, it's been an amazing run. We have many more years ahead of us, we think.

And it's always good to celebrate a birthday and be thankful for another year,

getting to do what we love.

It's hard to believe you guys have been at it for 11 years.

I know.

Goes fast, doesn't it?

I know. What's going to be really wild is when we celebrate 10 years of Mac power

users being on relay, which I think is coming up pretty soon. Yeah, you know, and I think,

I think I'm right on the verge of 20 years of Max Barky. I'll have to look up when I did my first

post. Oh, actually, we have passed 10 years of MPU on relay. Oh, have we? That happened in April.

Yeah. Wow. It was an easy decision to move the show over. I mean, you know, all my pals were here and it was just really great. I think that was really good for the show. Yeah. Well, anyway, enough of that stuff, guys. What is the 11-year anniversary gift, though? Do you know what that is?

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